diff --git a/gradle.properties b/gradle.properties
index df6dd355..ecd41b0d 100644
--- a/gradle.properties
+++ b/gradle.properties
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ org.gradle.jvmargs=-Xmx1G
 	loader_version=0.6.1+build.165
 
 # Mod Properties
-	mod_version = 1.1.0+v190925
+	mod_version = 1.1.0+v190927
 	maven_group = carpet
 	archives_base_name = fabric-carpet
 
diff --git a/src/main/java/carpet/CarpetServer.java b/src/main/java/carpet/CarpetServer.java
index 372657c2..6711e796 100644
--- a/src/main/java/carpet/CarpetServer.java
+++ b/src/main/java/carpet/CarpetServer.java
@@ -99,16 +99,19 @@ public class CarpetServer // static for now - easier to handle all around the co
 
     public static void onPlayerLoggedIn(ServerPlayerEntity player)
     {
+        LoggerRegistry.playerConnected(player);
         extensions.forEach(e -> e.onPlayerLoggedIn(player));
     }
 
     public static void onPlayerLoggedOut(ServerPlayerEntity player)
     {
+        LoggerRegistry.playerDisconnected(player);
         extensions.forEach(e -> e.onPlayerLoggedOut(player));
     }
 
     public static void onServerClosed(MinecraftServer server)
     {
+        LoggerRegistry.stopLoggers();
         extensions.forEach(e -> e.onServerClosed(server));
     }
 }
diff --git a/src/main/java/carpet/logging/Logger.java b/src/main/java/carpet/logging/Logger.java
index b320d537..783cbd89 100644
--- a/src/main/java/carpet/logging/Logger.java
+++ b/src/main/java/carpet/logging/Logger.java
@@ -1,13 +1,16 @@
 package carpet.logging;
 
 import carpet.CarpetServer;
+import carpet.settings.CarpetSettings;
 import net.minecraft.entity.player.PlayerEntity;
 import net.minecraft.server.network.ServerPlayerEntity;
 import net.minecraft.text.BaseText;
 
 import java.util.Arrays;
 import java.util.HashMap;
+import java.util.HashSet;
 import java.util.Map;
+import java.util.Set;
 import java.util.function.Supplier;
 
 public class Logger
@@ -85,6 +88,12 @@ public class Logger
         return subscribedOnlinePlayers.size() > 0;
     }
 
+    public void serverStopped()
+    {
+        subscribedOnlinePlayers.clear();
+        subscribedOfflinePlayers.clear();
+    }
+
     /**
      * serves messages to players fetching them from the promise
      * will repeat invocation for players that share the same option
@@ -162,7 +171,7 @@ public class Logger
 
     // ----- Event Handlers ----- //
 
-    public void onPlayerConnect(PlayerEntity player)
+    public void onPlayerConnect(PlayerEntity player, boolean firstTime)
     {
         // If the player was subscribed to the log and offline, move them to the set of online subscribers.
         String playerName = player.getName().getString();
@@ -171,6 +180,14 @@ public class Logger
             subscribedOnlinePlayers.put(playerName, subscribedOfflinePlayers.get(playerName));
             subscribedOfflinePlayers.remove(playerName);
         }
+        else if(firstTime)
+        {
+            Set<String> loggingOptions = new HashSet<>(Arrays.asList(CarpetSettings.defaultLoggers.split(",")));
+            if (loggingOptions.contains(getLogName()))
+            {
+                subscribedOnlinePlayers.put(playerName, getDefault());
+            }
+        }
         LoggerRegistry.setAccess(this);
     }
 
diff --git a/src/main/java/carpet/logging/LoggerRegistry.java b/src/main/java/carpet/logging/LoggerRegistry.java
index 581f7623..c216c600 100644
--- a/src/main/java/carpet/logging/LoggerRegistry.java
+++ b/src/main/java/carpet/logging/LoggerRegistry.java
@@ -7,6 +7,7 @@ import net.minecraft.util.DyeColor;
 import java.lang.reflect.Field;
 import java.util.Arrays;
 import java.util.HashMap;
+import java.util.HashSet;
 import java.util.Map;
 import java.util.Set;
 
@@ -137,14 +138,31 @@ public class LoggerRegistry
         setAccess(logger);
     }
 
-    public static void playerConnected(PlayerEntity player)
+    private static Set<String> seenPlayers = new HashSet<>();
+
+    public static void stopLoggers()
     {
+        seenPlayers.clear();
         for(Logger log: loggerRegistry.values() )
         {
-            log.onPlayerConnect(player);
+            log.serverStopped();
         }
-
     }
+    public static void playerConnected(PlayerEntity player)
+    {
+        boolean firstTime = false;
+        if (!seenPlayers.contains(player.getName().getString()))
+        {
+            seenPlayers.add(player.getName().getString());
+            firstTime = true;
+            //subscribe them to the defualt loggers
+        }
+        for(Logger log: loggerRegistry.values() )
+        {
+            log.onPlayerConnect(player, firstTime);
+        }
+    }
+
     public static void playerDisconnected(PlayerEntity player)
     {
         for(Logger log: loggerRegistry.values() )
diff --git a/src/main/java/carpet/settings/CarpetSettings.java b/src/main/java/carpet/settings/CarpetSettings.java
index d92450d8..58a5767f 100644
--- a/src/main/java/carpet/settings/CarpetSettings.java
+++ b/src/main/java/carpet/settings/CarpetSettings.java
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ import static carpet.settings.RuleCategory.SURVIVAL;
 
 public class CarpetSettings
 {
-    public static final String carpetVersion = "1.1.0+v190925";
+    public static final String carpetVersion = "1.1.0+v190927";
     public static final Logger LOG = LogManager.getLogger();
     public static boolean skipGenerationChecks = false;
     public static boolean impendingFillSkipUpdates = false;
@@ -172,6 +172,14 @@ public class CarpetSettings
     )
     public static boolean commandLog = true;
 
+    @Rule(
+            desc = "sets these loggers in their default configurations for all new players",
+            extra = "use csv, like 'tps,mobcaps' for multiple loggers, none for nothing",
+            category = {CREATIVE, SURVIVAL},
+            options = {"none", "tps", "mobcaps,tps"}
+    )
+    public static String defaultLoggers = "none";
+
     @Rule(
             desc = "Enables /distance command to measure in game distance between points",
             extra = "Also enables brown carpet placement action if 'carpets' rule is turned on as well",